Reds Roundtable Pt. 6
Participants include Tim Mo (that's me!), shawn weaver of Cincinnati Reds Blog, Blade of The Cutting Edge, daedalus of Church of Baseball, Clint of the 320 Pub, , and Chris of Redleg Nation.
On the Reds chances in the NL Central, as well as Conine vs. Rolen/Edmonds...
daedalus: so how many games are we gonna win this year?
daedalus: 87
Blade: So we need to find someone good
Chris @ RLN: 74
Blade: I say 75
sweaver: I agree with Blade. 75 wins.
320Pub_Clint: 72
Tim Mo: 79
sweaver: I think we were a little lucky last year, and will be a little unlucky this year. Next year will be better.
daedalus: 87 wins. y'all remember that so i can say i told you so. and i'm never this optimistic
Tim Mo: you are the beacon of optimism on this night
sweaver: That is my hope. Because 87 wins takes the Central, I betcha.
Blade: If they win 87 games....eh forget it
daedalus: and you can make fun of me if it's nowhere close
Tim Mo: i agree with shawn, we are in a good position to be pretty dang good next year
320Pub_Clint: i think this season will be similar to last season. i definitely don't see us in last place like SI does
Blade: I mean, if a lot of things go right, 87 isn't that out of the realm. Who thought they'd win 80 last year
daedalus: not i
Blade: I see the Reds in fourth, Pirates are still bad and the Astros are vulnerable
sweaver: Certainly not me, with 80 wins.
Blade: Nor I
daedalus: cardinals rotation - it's simply awful. i think they are a non factor this year
sweaver: I put the Reds fourth as well. Astros are toast, Pirates a bit better but still bad.
Chris @ RLN: I agree w/ Blade. My division pick (at least right now) is Milwaukee (followed by the Cubs, Cards, Reds, Bucs, and Ausmuses).
sweaver: Cards/Cubs/Brewers/Reds/Astros
Tim Mo: i doubt the cards are a non-factor
sweaver: But the Brewers are the only team in the division with a good shot at 90 wins.
Tim Mo: the brewers are in the middle of the pack and are the only team with a shot at 90?
daedalus: why? you can't win with one good player and a bunch of aging veterans. why is it that people criticize the acquistion of conine yet think that having rolen and edmonds on a team is a good thing?
sweaver: I think the Brewers are a .500 team, but with breakout potential.
Chris @ RLN: Because Rolen can freakin hit.
Chris @ RLN: And field.
sweaver: Conine isn't a HOFer. I think Rolen and Edmonds are.
320Pub_Clint: I think the Cards win the division with the Cubs in a very close 2nd. I always think the Brewers will do better than they end up doing so I will be a homer and pick Cincy 3rd, MIL 4 HOU 5 and PIT 6
Chris @ RLN: And is only 32.
Chris @ RLN: and had an 887 OPS
320Pub_Clint: yeah Rolen and Conine isn't a very good comparison
Tim Mo: believe it or not, there is such a thing as a good veteran player and a bad one
daedalus: conine isn't exactly an automatic out. he could, of course, be better, but he's not that bad. and rolen and edmonds HOFs? really? you think? rolen is only 32? you're kidding. i thought he was like 37
sweaver: Yes, I think Rolen and Edmonds are deserving of the HOF.
320Pub_Clint: I don't mind having Conine on the team as long as Jerry can fight the urge to play him every day
Blade: I'd take Rolen
Tim Mo: rolen for sure, jury is out on edmonds
Tim Mo: sorry clint, i mind having conine on the team
sweaver: Edmonds may be toast now, but he has been a great player
Chris @ RLN: The good news is that Edmonds' back isn't getting better; Eckstein still can't hit, and they have no pitchers beyond Carpenter and maybe Reyes. Rolen's definitely on the way to Cooperstown, though he might be the Barry Larkin to Wright, Cabrera, Zimmerman, and Gordon's ARod/Jeter/Nomar.
sweaver: Too true, Chris
320Pub_Clint: tim, so I assume you would like Votto up this season?
sweaver: I think Votto will be at 1B by Sept. 1
Chris @ RLN: Conine: .325 OBP last year.
daedalus: votto comes up in july after hatteberg and conine suffer little injuries
Blade: I like Votto too. Hatteberg is decent, but Votto is the future
daedalus: never goes down again
sweaver: Conine has been remarkably durable during his career.
Chris @ RLN: I don't need Votto right now - let him hit AAA. But there are always 1b floating around. Dmitri Young's starting for DC, no?
Tim Mo: yes sir
320Pub_Clint: i will go in the middle of shawn and daedalus and say Votto comes up sometime in august
Tim Mo: and votto will be up there eventually
daedalus: next year is gonna be great, isn't it? bailey and votto and no more milton.
Chris @ RLN: How about Roberto Petagine, for you long-term fans.
Tim Mo: i can MAYBE handle conine at first base, but if he gets in the outfield...
320Pub_Clint: yeah I agree with that Tim
Pt. 1 - (Hamilton) daedalus' Church of Baseball
Pt. 2 - (#5 starter) Blade's Cutting Edge
Pt. 3 - (Eric Milton) Clint's Olde Pub 320
Pt. 4 - (pitching) Shawn's Reds Blog
Pt. 5 - (Narron) RedLeg Nation
Pt. 6 - Right here!
Pt. 7 - (final send-off) Shawn and Tyler's Redlegs Rundown
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